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		<title>By: Meggy</title>
		<link>http://www.to-done.com/2005/07/take-time-off/comment-page-1/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Meggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, thanks :) I think the story of your friend is interesting, and I&#039;ve definately seen the reverse work effectively. I&#039;ve worked as a contractor for many years so I&#039;ve had a lot of different employers, and I always notice one thing with all of them - it happens right at the start of your employment, where something will come up that requires overtime, and they&#039;ll push you to see if you&#039;ll do it (for free, of course). 

After giving in out of a sense of obligation/politeness for many years, I finally got sick of working free overtime, and began to put my foot down. I&#039;ve noticed, if you do this politely but firmly at the start of a new job, it&#039;s very unlikely you&#039;ll be asked to work overtime often, and it doesn&#039;t damage your reputation, it actually makes your team leader (if they&#039;re the decent sort) treat you with more respect because they know they can&#039;t rely on you to pick up the pieces if they do sloppy work. So, in turn, they improve their own work standards. You benefit by being able to keep to a regular 8 hr day and be a better worker because of it.

I&#039;m sure this isn&#039;t a universal thing, but I&#039;ve definately seen enough evidence to think it&#039;s fairly common. The key thing of course is to be a good worker - you can&#039;t shirk overtime if you&#039;ve been bludging half the day, but if you&#039;ve worked hard for 8 hours why on earth should you stay at work unless something very urgent needs to be done (and those &#039;somethings&#039; shouldn&#039;t happen more than once every few months, if they are then someone along the chain of command is slacking, or procedures need to be examined).

It&#039;s also a fact that working too hard for too long can and will create the basis for chronic depression. Without getting too technical, high-concentration activities (reading, writing, coding, designing, etc) deplete seratonin levels fairly rapidly, and low seratonin levels leave you much less able to deal with stress. So if you work hard for 8 hours, then give your brain a break by doing stuff like watching movies or playing computer games, your seratonin levels will jump back to normal, especially if you add a good night&#039;s sleep to the picture. But if you&#039;re spending lots of time in &#039;work mode&#039;, doing high-concentration activities, eventually your stress system will kick in, and that in turn creates patterns of negative thinking which lower sleep quality, make you more susceptible to pain, and start a loop of depression that is really hard to get out of. And I&#039;m talking from experience here ;). Sorry for the science lesson, but I thought this was relevant to the post. There&#039;s a great site online actually that deals with this stuff - http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/index.htm

Thanks again for the article and the linked one too, both are very interesting :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, thanks :) I think the story of your friend is interesting, and I&#8217;ve definately seen the reverse work effectively. I&#8217;ve worked as a contractor for many years so I&#8217;ve had a lot of different employers, and I always notice one thing with all of them &#8211; it happens right at the start of your employment, where something will come up that requires overtime, and they&#8217;ll push you to see if you&#8217;ll do it (for free, of course). </p>
<p>After giving in out of a sense of obligation/politeness for many years, I finally got sick of working free overtime, and began to put my foot down. I&#8217;ve noticed, if you do this politely but firmly at the start of a new job, it&#8217;s very unlikely you&#8217;ll be asked to work overtime often, and it doesn&#8217;t damage your reputation, it actually makes your team leader (if they&#8217;re the decent sort) treat you with more respect because they know they can&#8217;t rely on you to pick up the pieces if they do sloppy work. So, in turn, they improve their own work standards. You benefit by being able to keep to a regular 8 hr day and be a better worker because of it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure this isn&#8217;t a universal thing, but I&#8217;ve definately seen enough evidence to think it&#8217;s fairly common. The key thing of course is to be a good worker &#8211; you can&#8217;t shirk overtime if you&#8217;ve been bludging half the day, but if you&#8217;ve worked hard for 8 hours why on earth should you stay at work unless something very urgent needs to be done (and those &#8216;somethings&#8217; shouldn&#8217;t happen more than once every few months, if they are then someone along the chain of command is slacking, or procedures need to be examined).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a fact that working too hard for too long can and will create the basis for chronic depression. Without getting too technical, high-concentration activities (reading, writing, coding, designing, etc) deplete seratonin levels fairly rapidly, and low seratonin levels leave you much less able to deal with stress. So if you work hard for 8 hours, then give your brain a break by doing stuff like watching movies or playing computer games, your seratonin levels will jump back to normal, especially if you add a good night&#8217;s sleep to the picture. But if you&#8217;re spending lots of time in &#8216;work mode&#8217;, doing high-concentration activities, eventually your stress system will kick in, and that in turn creates patterns of negative thinking which lower sleep quality, make you more susceptible to pain, and start a loop of depression that is really hard to get out of. And I&#8217;m talking from experience here ;). Sorry for the science lesson, but I thought this was relevant to the post. There&#8217;s a great site online actually that deals with this stuff &#8211; <a href="http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/index.htm</a></p>
<p>Thanks again for the article and the linked one too, both are very interesting :)</p>
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		<title>By: Britt</title>
		<link>http://www.to-done.com/2005/07/take-time-off/comment-page-1/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timely post for me as well. Someone recently recommended to me that I need to make a real vacation the top priority in my life. I agreed but instantly discovered that I realistically won&#039;t be able to do that until next summer. All my recent vacations have been work related (conferences, workshops, home repair projects).

I have been planning on taking &lt;em&gt;one&lt;/em&gt; day to do nothing, which is much more difficult than it seems. In the meantime, I have been making myself take breaks to walk outside at lunch, and at home I have a outdoor project to keep me away from staring at screens in the evening. It&#039;s a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timely post for me as well. Someone recently recommended to me that I need to make a real vacation the top priority in my life. I agreed but instantly discovered that I realistically won&#8217;t be able to do that until next summer. All my recent vacations have been work related (conferences, workshops, home repair projects).</p>
<p>I have been planning on taking <em>one</em> day to do nothing, which is much more difficult than it seems. In the meantime, I have been making myself take breaks to walk outside at lunch, and at home I have a outdoor project to keep me away from staring at screens in the evening. It&#8217;s a start.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin D. Devroe</title>
		<link>http://www.to-done.com/2005/07/take-time-off/comment-page-1/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin D. Devroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m recommending that Paul Scrivens reads this article. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m recommending that Paul Scrivens reads this article. :)</p>
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		<title>By: stories from an ordinary life</title>
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		<dc:creator>stories from an ordinary life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;breaks and vacations&lt;/strong&gt;

	As I go to work, feeling stressed and overworked, having to cut my vacation time short, this series of articles really struck a cord.
	Bloggeropoly talks about why Taking a vacation is important.
	According to the study, Canadians have about 21 days o...</description>
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<p>	As I go to work, feeling stressed and overworked, having to cut my vacation time short, this series of articles really struck a cord.<br />
	Bloggeropoly talks about why Taking a vacation is important.<br />
	According to the study, Canadians have about 21 days o&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.to-done.com/2005/07/take-time-off/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically I stumbled across this post whilst I was meant to be working. You see, I&#039;ve been sitting here more or less since 9am and it is now 21.43 at time of writing. Lunch was at the computer catching up on correspondance with friends, dinner was at the computer reading film reviews and sports news. Once again I have reached that all too familiar state of stinging eyes and constant yawning, but still I continue to try and be productive. 

Listen. It doesn&#039;t work. Period. What I have found over the past 6 years or so, is that if you decide &quot;right, I am going to work really hard from say 9 til 12, take a 30/60 min break, work really hard again until 3 or 4, take another short break and finish up at 6pm&quot;, then switch off the PC until next morning, you&#039;ll be far more productive than doing 12 hours of constant slog. It&#039;s the nature of the beast. The brain and the body will see to it eventually. Thing is, I never really believed it until recently. I was afraid to finish at a &quot;reasonable time&quot; each  day. I stopped taking public holidays, only took 3 out of 4 weeks annual leave, never ever worked the required 8 hours...oh no...had to at least do 11+. And as you say, colleagues start to expect if from you, family/friends learn to live with it and before you know it, that&#039;s what you do, that&#039;s who you&#039;ve become. 

It&#039;s not too late to change things. Ask yourself honestly, have you been really productive today? Are you sure you are not simply filling 12 hours up with tasks that, if you are focussed and alert, you&#039;d not manage to do in 8 hours anyway. Most times you will find that you may well have achieved your marathon days work within the confines of a 9 til 5 scenario. 

I work from home and therefore separating work from family life and personal interests (whatever they are!) is not always easy. But I am working on it, and reading this post has sparked my desire to tackle this whole work/life balance again head on.

Recently I&#039;ve been going for a lunchtime jog and taking the dog out for a proper walk for once. It&#039;s doing us both the world of good. (ok, today has been a day example of my new approach to things, but one step at a time people). And, I&#039;ve got to say I&#039;m enjoying work again, refreshed each morning knowing that I&#039;ll put in an honest days work until early evening then it&#039;s time for some reading, movies, diy, visiting friends, going for a drink and a natter, walking the dog again etc. I think, and correct me if I am wrong, but I think it&#039;s what they call living...   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically I stumbled across this post whilst I was meant to be working. You see, I&#8217;ve been sitting here more or less since 9am and it is now 21.43 at time of writing. Lunch was at the computer catching up on correspondance with friends, dinner was at the computer reading film reviews and sports news. Once again I have reached that all too familiar state of stinging eyes and constant yawning, but still I continue to try and be productive. </p>
<p>Listen. It doesn&#8217;t work. Period. What I have found over the past 6 years or so, is that if you decide &#8220;right, I am going to work really hard from say 9 til 12, take a 30/60 min break, work really hard again until 3 or 4, take another short break and finish up at 6pm&#8221;, then switch off the PC until next morning, you&#8217;ll be far more productive than doing 12 hours of constant slog. It&#8217;s the nature of the beast. The brain and the body will see to it eventually. Thing is, I never really believed it until recently. I was afraid to finish at a &#8220;reasonable time&#8221; each  day. I stopped taking public holidays, only took 3 out of 4 weeks annual leave, never ever worked the required 8 hours&#8230;oh no&#8230;had to at least do 11+. And as you say, colleagues start to expect if from you, family/friends learn to live with it and before you know it, that&#8217;s what you do, that&#8217;s who you&#8217;ve become. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not too late to change things. Ask yourself honestly, have you been really productive today? Are you sure you are not simply filling 12 hours up with tasks that, if you are focussed and alert, you&#8217;d not manage to do in 8 hours anyway. Most times you will find that you may well have achieved your marathon days work within the confines of a 9 til 5 scenario. </p>
<p>I work from home and therefore separating work from family life and personal interests (whatever they are!) is not always easy. But I am working on it, and reading this post has sparked my desire to tackle this whole work/life balance again head on.</p>
<p>Recently I&#8217;ve been going for a lunchtime jog and taking the dog out for a proper walk for once. It&#8217;s doing us both the world of good. (ok, today has been a day example of my new approach to things, but one step at a time people). And, I&#8217;ve got to say I&#8217;m enjoying work again, refreshed each morning knowing that I&#8217;ll put in an honest days work until early evening then it&#8217;s time for some reading, movies, diy, visiting friends, going for a drink and a natter, walking the dog again etc. I think, and correct me if I am wrong, but I think it&#8217;s what they call living&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.to-done.com/2005/07/take-time-off/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and comments here. 

Sarah, I wish I had 32 days off. In the US, it&#039;s a ridiculous 15 or less depending on your job. We definitely work too much here to our detriment. 

Yannick, I am the same way. I just can&#039;t seem to get off the damn computer, especially now that I&#039;ve started blogging for the past 3 months. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and comments here. </p>
<p>Sarah, I wish I had 32 days off. In the US, it&#8217;s a ridiculous 15 or less depending on your job. We definitely work too much here to our detriment. </p>
<p>Yannick, I am the same way. I just can&#8217;t seem to get off the damn computer, especially now that I&#8217;ve started blogging for the past 3 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Yannick L.</title>
		<link>http://www.to-done.com/2005/07/take-time-off/comment-page-1/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Yannick L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am definitely guilty of not taking enough breaks during the day. I mean my job requires me to be infront of a computer and as soon as I reach home I am back infront of the computer till the wee hours of the morning (sometimes doing nothing productive or necessary, other times working again). I think I definitely just need to take a break and do something else apart from be infront of the computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely guilty of not taking enough breaks during the day. I mean my job requires me to be infront of a computer and as soon as I reach home I am back infront of the computer till the wee hours of the morning (sometimes doing nothing productive or necessary, other times working again). I think I definitely just need to take a break and do something else apart from be infront of the computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This month I just started my first full-time job, which is in the UK. 38 days of paid leave (including public holidays, so really something like 32). There is such a culture of getting people to use their days off because you can only roll over five to the next year, and there&#039;s also some sense of something being wrong if people go for long stretches without taking a break. It doesn&#039;t increase the longer you stay with the employer, but with that deal, how much more time off could you realistically want? It&#039;s so different comparing with friends in the US. I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d adapt well to the American system if I&#039;m getting used to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This month I just started my first full-time job, which is in the UK. 38 days of paid leave (including public holidays, so really something like 32). There is such a culture of getting people to use their days off because you can only roll over five to the next year, and there&#8217;s also some sense of something being wrong if people go for long stretches without taking a break. It doesn&#8217;t increase the longer you stay with the employer, but with that deal, how much more time off could you realistically want? It&#8217;s so different comparing with friends in the US. I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d adapt well to the American system if I&#8217;m getting used to this.</p>
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